Atheists Pu-LEEZ!

[mdehners]

I Understand where most are coming from but I do get tired of the YHVH or No Way Attitude. If old “Sand and Fire” isn’t for you…Great. We Understand but don’t lump us in with the reasons you don’t Believe that there are ANY Spiritual Entities out there. Yes, the Bible is frequently Wrong Scientifically and Ethically but it’s Inaccuracies don’t negate the Experiences of EVERY non-JCI Person of Faith on the planet(or possibly beyond;>). I’m NOT an Atheist. Yes, I don’t Follow YHVH in whatever religion He’s being Followed in. I don’t deny He Exists either. I just have no Interest IN Him….just like the MAJORITY of Deities on Earth. I’m a Heathen. I Follow those of my pre-C Ancestors. I am not “Free of Belief”. I’m “Free to Believe” as my Ancestors were before the Coming of the Bloody “Prince of Peace”….
Cheers,
Pat

Comments

[houseofchimeras]

Sorry to hear that people are aggravating, though I cant say as I have never experienced it myself.

Even though I am a Kemetic I actually rather enjoy a good lot of atheist community, or at least the “positive atheism” part of the atheist community. I guess it is because the parts of the community I hang around are about looking into the psychological and sociological nature of believes in the brain as well as concerns with separation of church and state over all. Of course, in my case, I think it is because I was raised in a agnostic and atheist family (my sister and her husband being atheist, my mother being agnostic, grandmother every saying a word about religion ever) and so was an agnostic atheist for most of my life.

I tend to have Christians both inside and outside my family think I am atheist because I don’t believe as they do; however, I’ve never had an atheist either inside my family or outside it give me grief as such.

[mdehners]

It's become pretty consistant in my life in the last couple of yrs. It used to be Atheists just thought I was silly "play-acting with mythological characters" but in the last couple of yrs it's as if my NOT leaving YHVH back in the 70's for "Reality" is personally offnsive, like a non-practicing Jewish person eating bacon....
Cheers,
Pat

[ngakmafaery]

...I think people get insane on the subject, as if the only choices are 'vanilla' or 'against-vanilla-to-the-death-and-beyond'...*shrug*...I'm non-deist, non-theist, but it's because I think there are so many of them that I have no personal affiliation or preference, but it's CLEAR that the mileage of others will completely vary...!

[mdehners]

It seems in my experience(esp recently) that those who don't consider Spirituality a zero sum game("YHVH or NO Way")are offencive to thier sensibilities. And I didn't trade the "Sky Spook" for the "Marvel Lineup".
Cheers,
Pat

[ariesfire]

It seems a little counter-productive to be so angry about it, don't you think?
Also, with that kind of attitude, it also seems to prove their point. Maybe they're just tired of the drama and want to be free to believe the way they wish, just as we do.

[ravan]

Tone argument?

[scatteredshells]

What I was going to say.

[mdehners]

????
Cheers,
Pat

[scatteredshells]

Basically, when someone says you are too angry about something, something you are expressing that is damn frustrating yet you are not lashing out with personl insults... just expressing your anger. I do not believe all anger is bad or to be avoided. Some do.

Those who minimise your very real concerns because you are 'too angry' are pulling a tone argument. Especially in a place where you just came to vent that frustration.

[mdehners]

Ah...Thanks. I'll have to remember that one;>.
I do get that quite often. In my case, both temporal and experiential "mileage" means some folks without as much see me getting annnoyed at something they don't see as a big deal then see me as an arse.
Like me a few yrs ago on a Pagan list getting "jumped" because I mentioned a "traditional chant" wasn't as old as Madonna's Hair extensions(I din't use that term until the flaming beagan;>). I knew this because the chant had been the chorus of a song written by an ex's ex. Heck, there are a lot of Pagans that have never heard of Doreen Valiente or even Gerald Gardener(no, I didn't know them:>)...I won't even bring up Sybil leek or Dion Fortune's influence...
Cheers,
Pat

[mdehners]

But they're angry at me BECAUSE instead of dumping YHVH for Atheism, I didn't. Worse, I'm "Worshipping Comicbook Characters".
Cheers,
Pat

[ghosthound]

I've known a number of atheists who are worse than any religious person in my experience at trying to make you think and feel as they do. It can be powerfully frustrating at the best of times.

In my experience, any spiritual belief at all is ludicrous to a person of that mindset and it's best not even trifled with. You just need to be able to shrug off their opinions on your beliefs and occult knowledge and move on all the better for it. Association, even brief association, with such people can make you stronger in the long run.

[mdehners]

I ignor them in my personal life. Outside? I listen to them like I do the static on a radio station I'm listening to....as little as possible.The sadest is those who think "The Enemy of My Enemy" with them about Christians and find out they think even LESS of you than they do the Followers of the Lord of Sand and Blood.
Cheers,
Pat